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  What about your vow to Jehovah?

  by a watcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

  why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

  why were you serving jehovah at all?

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  Black Sheep

  There was never any WT Jehovah to make any vows to, and I didn't.
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  Link to Golden Age 1925 prediction- primary evidence of JW cock-up on Archive.org

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  trying to convince a jw that the wt predicted 1925 is hard because they won't look at anything from 'apostate' sites.

  but the american archive organisation is a disinterested organisation who publishes anything ever printed in america online for research and scholarship purposes.

  they are not apostates because they publish all religious, political, judicial, legislative etc online for the public to research.

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  Black Sheep

  You can direct them to search for "ancient worthies" in their WTCD and look for the reference in the 1975 yearbook. That way, you are referencing material they trust and can't refute.
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  Inside Australia's chilling new cult, an xJW is the leader

  by finallysomepride in

  1. social
  2. current

  in a 10 month investigation, sunday night infiltrates one of the worlds most worrying new cults.

  but most chilling, this cult is australian, spreading and described as worse than waco.

  we go inside the cults headquarters to meet the leaders and their followers who claim their lives have been changed forever.. http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/10276027/inside-australias-chilling-new-cult/.

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  Black Sheep

  He was on prime time tv in NZ last Sunday

  http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday/2013-05-26-video-5448735
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Black Sheep

  *lost* an incorrect statement is incorrect in any language. Please show us a statement from the bOrg that confirms that a JW will be DFd for association with a child that never joined the church.

  Thanks

  Chris
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  Quick update on sharing TTATT with my friend

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday morning i got a message from my friend, the one i shared ttatt with last week and she wanted to meet for coffee.

  this is the story/friend i'm referring to http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/251494/1/ha-take-that-watchtower-one-less-borg-for-you.. i was really nervous because since our initial visit she had told me that two of her other jw friends wanted to talk to me.

  after a little more prodding she admitted that her friends didn't accept what their own wt said about god's name and they wanted to talk to me to "bring me back to the truth.".

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  Black Sheep

  There is no painless way out of the bOrg *lost*. Researching the church documents independently is much better than just getting your enlightenment from both Elders and apostates and should be encouraged.
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  Quick update on sharing TTATT with my friend

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday morning i got a message from my friend, the one i shared ttatt with last week and she wanted to meet for coffee.

  this is the story/friend i'm referring to http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/251494/1/ha-take-that-watchtower-one-less-borg-for-you.. i was really nervous because since our initial visit she had told me that two of her other jw friends wanted to talk to me.

  after a little more prodding she admitted that her friends didn't accept what their own wt said about god's name and they wanted to talk to me to "bring me back to the truth.".

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  Black Sheep

  You didn't do a terrible job, you did a great job except for one mistake and I really hope that mistake doesn't get you a poke in the eye from the bOrg.

  Can she use a WTCD? If she can, you can get her using that to find the incriminating statements you are referring to.
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Black Sheep

  From the 2010 Elder's manual, page 60 under Determining Whether a Judicial Committee Should Be Formed: Brazen conduct, loose conduct:

  Willful, continued, unnecessary association with disfellowshipped nonrelatives despite repeated councel.

  Note that they have to not only be DF, they also have to be nonrelatives before a JC should be formed.
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Black Sheep

  If you are wearing an ugly shirt, a deaf person will tell you it is ugly to your face and tell you it should be thrown away.

  I have had deaf people tell me personally, you are too fat, you are gaining to much weight, you don't look good in that shirt.

  That's a symptom of an Aspie.

  No, I don't know much about deaf or ASL. I assumed from the OP that she could read English.

  I also assume that not all deaf are Aspies and that if I was deaf I wouldn't be too pleased about people describing me as also being Aspie, but I am a bit Aspie myself and not deaf at all, so what would I know?
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Black Sheep

  *lost*

  So what i suggest is, you go and tell them you are a member of an ''apostate '' club and you have been having

  discussions on all of these things and ask them the questions you are asking here. See what they say.

  I'm not that stupid. What they would do is besides the point. The OP insisted that, "If you disagree with this and you talk to me, you will be df'ed. If you get baptized and your kids don't accept the "truth" and you continue to talk to them, you will be df'ed.", which says nothing about if your kids ID themselves as enemies of the Watchtower.

  you say you were never baptised, those that are baptised get treated very differently to those who are not.

  I know that, but there was no distinction made to the potential convert according to the OP.

  I don't know what you do, but if I'm talking to a Dub, or a potential recruit, I word any statements very carefully so that there is no chance of being accused of dishonesty or deceit. I want them to go and look it up in their literature to prove me wrong and quickly find out that they were in the wrong and owe me an apology ...... and I don't want them doing that to me.
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  HA! Take that Watchtower! One less Borg for you!!!!!

  by Gojira_101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last week a friend of mine contacted me out of the blue asking if we could have lunch together.

  my friend has been studing with the jw's on and off for about 11-12 years i think.

  she has told me everytime i see her that she can't wait for jehovah to end this evil world...she can't wait for the new system...the end is so close....etc.. i sent her a message back telling her that i left the jw's and asked her if she had heard that.

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  Black Sheep

  Brother of the Hawk, you need to read my posts more carefully. I'm not attacking anything except the tactics of trooo believer bOrgites. My posts are cautionary and from my experiences and the experiences of many on this forum.

  .... and ..... I don't know who is deaf and who isn't and wonder if that comment is verging on offensive to deaf people.